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SAA New Members - Welcome Aboard
The following new members signed on with the SAA in
April 2010;
LCDR Peter
Richards RAN (Rtd), North Haven SA. Partner
Dyan. Served on HMAS Ovens, HMAS Onslow, HMAS
Dechaineux, HMAS Farncomb, HMAS Waller, HMAS Rankin and
HMAS Collins.
ex Korporaal
Machinist Johannes Jacobus Van Buuren, Wynnum Qld.
Partner Johanna Pieternella. served on O21,
Zeeleeuw (USS Hawkbill), Walrus (USS Icefish). USS
Hawkbill and USS Icefish on loan from USN '54 to '66.
ex CPO Mechanician
Geoffrey Mitchell, Thirlmere NSW. Partner
Lily. Served on HMAS Otway '68-72
The following new members signed on with the SAA in
March 2010;
ex LSUCSM Robert
'Bob' Milne, Tamworth NSW. Partner Bronwyn.
Served on HMS Finwhale, HMS Amphion and HMS Opportune.
CAPT Lindsay Irwin OAM, RAN (Rtd) (Ex
WOEW),
Emmaville NSW. Partner Jacqueline. Served on HMAS
Orion, HMAS Otama, HMAS Onslow and HMAS Oxley.
ex ABUCSM Geoffrey 'Nosmo' King, Grafton
NSW. Served on HMAS Otway '69/74.
Join the SAA. Remember, the more Members the more the policy
makers in Canberra listen, there is strength in numbers. Details
on SAA Membership are provided on the
Application Form.

Birthdays
The following old tarts survived another year and
have had, or are having, a Birthday.
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Aries
Mar 20th - April 18th You are
practical and persistent, two qualities that make you a
pain in the arse! You have a dogged determination
to finish what you start, it is a pity that you never
get it right the first time. Some people think
that you are stubborn and pig-headed, but most just
think you are an arsehole.
Taurus
April 19th - May 19th Taurus takes its
name from the Greek Tauros, meaning "the Bull" ond like
a Bull you are full of it! You are successful in
life, because you understand the importance of sucking
up. Lacks a sense of humor, is aggressive and can be
stubborn and self-indulgence. As a lover does not have
the size or stamina of a Bull!
Why isn't
my Birthday here? I hear this often, the answer is
simple, I either don't like you or I rely on Plaxo to
help me manage the almost 1300 people in Up Periscope's
mailing list and you are not using it. So if you
want to be listed, fill in your details on Plaxo next
time I send an update request.
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April Birthdays 1st: Ross Britton
2nd: Keith Hatfield
3rd: Stuart Prigmore, Russell Clark, Phillip Bopf & Nick Carter 4th:
Leslie Birch & Kay Durrant
5th: Vernon Hancock & Werner Pelka
6th: Brian Linford
7th: Kevin Curtis, Irwin Schleicher & Arie de Rooy
8th: Steven Burgess
9th: Lindsay Peck, Michael Wood & Darren Thompson
11th: Susan O'Grady, Sandy Coulson,
Derrick Keeping
& Scott Walker
13th: Eric Jones & Paul Gardiner
14th: Allan Sutton & Bruce Crane
13th: Paul Gardiner & Eric Jones
14th: Bruce Crane & Allan Sutton
15th: Mal Bridge, Terry Gannon, Helen Wyatt, Ian Sinclair, Dale
Turner, Peter Richards &
Stuart Campbell
16th: Michael Norton
17th: Peter Russell, Howard Rutter, George Marriotto & Michael
Rikard-Bell
18th: Maurice Draper
19th: Ray Wilson
20th: Bob Trotter
21st: John Chambers
22nd: Terry Frost
23rd: Graham Morritt & Graeme Caesar
24th: Warren Humphrey & Brian Blackburn
25th: Peter Rixon
26th: Gordon Sexton
27th: Jon Davison
28th: Mathew Swanson
29th: Jan Edworthy & Mark Howard
30th: Ken Greig & Peter O'Donohue
Birthday Calculator.
After you've finished reading the info, click again, and
see what the moon looked like the night you were born.

Have you been in contact with an old shipmate lately?
If you know that one of your mates has had a few
problems, be they health or family issues, a call from a
mate can make them realise YOU CARE. Get on the
phone now, you will (hopefully) never know how much it
means.

Sunday, 25th April 2010
These photos
taken at 2004 - 2009 ANZAC Day marches demonstrates that
friends made in submarines are mates for life.
We hope that
you have an enjoyable ANZAC Day and that you spend it
with your mates remembering those who have made the
Supreme Sacrifice in the Service of our Nation.
They have no grave but the cruel sea, No flowers
lay at their head. A rusting hulk is their tombstone
Afast on the Ocean bed.
We Will Remember Them
"LEST WE FORGET"
ANZAC Day - Ballina 2010 not sure, but it looks like
Alan McCarthy, Colin MacDonald, Rod Fayle and
Paul Dann (?) Also attending were Richard 'Squizzy'
Taylor and John Fielding

I hope that today you managed to break away from the apron strings and
join your mates for a few pints and a lot of shared memories. I
hope that you had a beer or two for those on eternal Patrol and spared a
few moments to be thankful for your lot. I had a quiet day, Dawn
Service in Tiaro and I attended the Service in Hervey Bay. I would
have liked to have gone to Brisbane, but not having a baby sitter for
the dogs would have made it a day trip. No fun if you can't have a
beer or ten! I did manage to catch a glimpse of the Rob "Woolly
Bull" Woolrych on TV, he was in an army jeep.
Tomorrow I am re-running some plumbing under the house, replacing a lot
of old pipes with copper and putting outside taps in more suitable
areas. Fortunately the house is raised except for the front which
is only about 2 feet high, even laying on my stomach will be a drama.
I hope that the snakes have moved out, the first sign of one and the
rusted pipes can stay.
The constant rain and drizzle that we have had for the past two months
is pissing me off, what happened to Sunny Queensland? My grass is
a sodden mass ad a lot of the new lawn planted last year is dying with
root damp. Who said gardening was a calming pastime?
Well, a lot to do if I want this online today, so that's it for now.
Dear Lord, I know that I haven't talked to you that much, but this past
year you have taken away my favourite actor, Patrick Swayze, my
favourite actress, Farah Fawcett, my favourite musician, Michael
Jackson, and my favourite salesman, Billy Mayes. I just wanted to let
you know that my favourite prime minister is Kevin Rudd. Amen!
SAA
NEWS
Branch
Events
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16th May - 1200 |
VIC |
Social Meeting |
Frankston Naval Association.
Contact
Keith Hatfield
for details. |
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23rd May - 1100 |
NSW |
General Meeting |
BBQ on Spectacle Island.
Contact
Ken Norris |
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29th May - 1800 |
WA |
USN Subvets Dinner |
A weekend in Albany starts with a dinner.
Contact
Paul Meakin
for details. |
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30th May -
1030 |
WA |
USN Subvets Memorial |
The annual service conducted in Albany in memory of USN
Submarine Veterans.
Contact
Paul Meakin
for details. |
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7th June |
ACT |
General Meeting
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General meeting at Canberra
Services Club, Manuka. Contact Geoff Burns at
gcburns@clearmail.com.au
or 0427 435 314All submariners are most welcome. |
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11th - 14th June
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ALL |
SAA AGM and SUBCON 2010 |
A gathering of the Australian submarine
community, SUBCON 2010.
See you in Coffs! |
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20th
June |
VIC |
Social Meeting |
Venue ESU, South
Yarra. Contact
Keith Hatfield
for details. |
Branch Secretaries are requested to
ensure that this calendar is kept up to date. All
submariners are invited to attend these meetings and
functions, all Members are requested to attend at least
one meeting or function a year.
SUBCON
NEWS

By now all Raffle tickets or stubbs for the
Monster Raffle should have been returned to the organisers. Time
to make a bookings is also running out and you need to make a move soon.
Bookings shut at the end of this month and money is required also.
To confirm the status of your booking go to the
SUBCON
pages.
The organising Committee is working frantically
behind the scenes and I think that they will do the Association proud.
Get behind them, a little support makes it all worth while.
Pouvez-vous parler français et d'assister SUBCON?
Nos membres de Nouméa, Roberto Lunardo, seront présents et je tiens à
prendre des dispositions pour lui de se sentir à la maison et être assis
avec quelqu'un qui peut parler français, il a peu d'anglais. Si vous
pouvez aider s'il vous plaît contactez-moi.
BOOKINGS
FOR SUBCON 2010
SHUT 30 APRIL - BOOK NOW

CONGRATULATIONS
On the award of your
Dolphins
ABAWASM A. Moore - HMAS Waller
LEUT M. Radford - HMAS Waller
AROUND THE
TRAPS
New Member Peter Richards has the three name plates for
HMAS Collins' diesels - Haxa, Subba and Fnask, which he
is going to present to the Port Adelaide Naval
Association for display in their "Submarine corner".
What tiffie picked out those names, no wonder they won't
run, they're too ashamed.
During Cyclone Ului I mentioned that I had nor received
any damage reports from up North. This week I almost
managed to get to the bottom of my email in tray and
came across this from our Island hopping friend Phil
Solomon. "We survived TC Ului,
just lots of mess from broken trees to clean up and a
little damage to Demi Sec, just the bimini, easy fixed.
My tiki hut survived well which is a good thing. Must be
well built by a professional submarine greenie!! Boy can
that wind howl. Not to bad until we heard an almighty
crash which turned out to be the neighbours shed
disintegrating. Also big trees and palms crashing down
everywhere. The eye passed right over us and I went
out
to have a look at what damage we had incurred. Very
eerie after the full 200 plus winds a few minutes
before. Half an hour later you could hear it coming
again so back inside and shut all watertight doors until
it finished throwing it's tantrum. Had no power or phone
for a week but my mate next door had a generator so we
ran both fridges off that and cooked on my little gas
stove out the back. Still had cold coke and ice for the
rum and cold beer, what else do ya need? Still no TV on
line but it's all crap anyway so not missing it."
"We've
been housing another mate this week who lost his boat in
the cyclone. He was onboard and the boat was swept onto
the beach and rocks in the dark and he had to abandon
ship with what he stood up in, minus his glasses, which
made it a little hard for him to see his way through the
rocks and mangroves. Sad about losing the boat but lucky
to be alive to talk about it. Anyway, back to the green
waste clean-up, I reckon I could start my own green
waste tip."
This year's reunion of retired ASW Senior Sailors will
be held in Ballina, NSW, on the weekend of August 6, 7
and 8. Contact details are
greigbruce@gmail.com or 02 62885875. Cost for all
events is $120.00 for a couple. Submariners are invited
to raise the tone of the party. If you are attending
drop in to the Ballina Hotel opposite the RSL and Murray
McConichie's son's Pat and Mark will look after you.
Great beer, food and company, a chance to get away from
the skimmers.
Gordon 'Kaffa' Anderson must be getting on in
years........"I made a try for the COLLINS Class Boats
in 2008, commenced the alignment training - OK a bit
late in life, but hey? - to see if I still had it in me.
Got as far as completing the SMSQ Task Book but realised
before I got to the Board that I am 53, not 33, and I
just couldn't keep going. That's why I'm back on
Skimmers. I don't feel as if I failed, just felt
disappointed that the body and mind no longer had their
respective "A Games" in them anymore. But at least I
tried. Greatest compliment I got when I was at STSC was
from Johnny Rourke, bless him. Said to the other
trainees that he admired and respected me for at least
giving it a go. I think I earned myself the sobriquet as
the Oldest Part III in history! LOL!"Yes mate,
having spent 20 years with Collins Class training I
understand, it is a young man's game. They were born
with a keyboard and mouse in their hands while we were
born with our ......... I won't go there!
The old breed also tend to want to know the
"why's and wherefores' and to be able to 'do' things
with their hand, not the brain. At least you tried mate.
Kaffa continued "As you are aware I'm back on HMAS
Anzac, currently transiting through the South China Sea
somewhere near Bali, heading to Singapore once more.
No-one onboard is sure what to do once we get ashore as
the Four Floors of Whores has been bulldozed by a
developer and being re-built as a resort and
condominiums. Surely the ladies were re-located? Anyway,
looking forward to ANZAC Day Services in Singers in
company with HMAS Success and HMNZS TeKaha. Should be a
good day for all. Also, ANZAC has the following
Submariners serving onboard should you wish to make a
note in The Chief's Log.
LEUT
WE SM Stuart Loynes
WOCSTSM JJ Bonney
POMT(E)SM Gordon Anderson
POMT(M)SM Steven Streat
POSTDSM Jason Steward
LSCKSM Steve Rowell (Terry Rowell's son)
ABMT(E)SM Rodney Otzen
The Crossing the Line Ceremony
this coming Thursday should also be a good one as
Streaty and I are building The Royal Throne so you know
with two Submariners in charge that it is going to be
covered with the requisite Dolphins! DBF!!"
Did
the freeloaders empty your wine cellars today? Top up now and take advantage of
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GIVEAWAY PRICE. Grab your cases before they sell out!!
Please visit the
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when you
place your order be sure to include the CLUB ID number to go onto your order
so the SAA can claim the 5% of sales. SAA ID Number is
3558.
Although slight delays may result as a consequence of
the volcano disrupting flights Helen an Terry Wyatt go
to Scotland for their annual pilgrimage on the 28th and
are not due back till mid June.
Ross 'Wombat' Walters reports that he is back in God’s
country now, enjoying the warm rain after a cold spell
in the UK. He said "I had a great
trip but after five weeks just glad to be in my own
place."
Glen "Taffy" Protheroe is another jetsetting at the
moment. "I am off to Thailand
tomorrow for two days (22nd, 23rd Apr) and pass through
Bangkok on my way home on the 7th May." I
told him to enjoy, but
don't wear red!
Property values on the Gold Coast will take a dive as
soon as the word gets out that SAA President, Dave
Sandquest has bought a property there. If you are
thinking of selling get in quick.
Rumour has it that Rick Steley will be relocating back
to South East Queensland at the end of this year.
Rick is currently working with HP as a Senior Technical
Solutions Consultant in the Northern Territory.
Wayne Stephens writes "I thought
this
link
might be of interest. Even as late as 2008 the Royal
Navy was trying to get an exemption to continue using
asbestos for thousands of "critical" items. Thanks
for the log. Keep up the good work."
Howard Rutter wrote "On Tuesdays I
walk with a group of ex service veterans and this
morning I was talking to an old retired Commander about
Capt Getting who was killed while in command of HMAS
Canberra at the battle of Savo Island in 1942. He was
not aware that Capt Getting was a submariner. I decided
to do some research on Capt Getting and print the
relevant details to pass on to this man during our walk
next week. On the Up Periscope web site under Our People
if you scroll down to the details about Capt Getting you
will see that there is a spelling mistake. The mistake
at the start of the article is the spelling of college.
I know this is a minor detail but it needs to be
corrected." And corrected it is, thanks
Howard. Same may think that he is being 'picky'
but I rely on visitors to bring mistakes to my attention
as I don't get a chance to visit completed pages."
Vale -VADM J. Guy Reynolds USN
Retired
Frank Owen, Honorary Treasurer of the Submarine
Institute of Australia forwarded the following sad
message regarding US Naval Submarine League President
and long-time SIA friend VADM J. Guy Reynolds USN
Retired. VADM Reynolds passed away on the 29th March. As
in life, he valiantly fought the good fight to his final
moments exceeding doctor's expectations ten-fold.? His
past few days were peaceful, without pain, surrounded by
close family and friends. A hero and inspiration to us
all- he will be sorely missed.
Life on board a Bomber
Reading about the hardship suffered by the USN
Submariners having to give up smoking reminded me of the
horrors of having to give up pooping on patrol.
Submarine Repulse had an extra sewage tank fitted in the
Missile Compartment mainly used by the Health
Technicians for disposal of low level radio-active waste
test samples from the reactor systems. The tank was
fitted with WC pan and seat and was mainly used by
Missile Compartment Watch Keepers subjected to the two
man rule, which required at least two men to be on duty
at all times. Control of the tank was in the hands of
the duty missile compartment operators and when full,
with OOW permission the tank was blown and then vented.
Anyhow, one time
the Health Technicians decided that they were
sufficiently competent to manage this task and commenced
the procedure. Somehow he became confused over the
operation of the outboard hull valve and the inboard
vent. Needless to say the Health Physics Lab became
immediately decorated with chocolate coloured spots must
to the disgust and chagrin of the Doctor. When next in
port under the doctors urging the WC Pan and seat etc
were removed and the pipe was welded shut.
You know what is coming next. A few days into the next
patrol there was a MAJOR blockade in the main sewage
system in the accommodation area and all the heads were
locked. There was a mad scramble to find buckets and
disinfectant for the working compartments and discussion
as to the disposal of the buckets contents when full.
The Doctor and his team came in for a deal of abuse for
closing off the alternate head in the Missile
Compartment especially as the problem had been caused by
them in the first place. Everyone on board suddenly
developed constipation, with more than half the eight
week patrol to go. Imagine the plight of the Captain
faced with the option of aborting a patrol because the
Ships Company needed a Sxxt. Fortunately due to some
incredible stout work by the outside staff the main
sewage blockage was rectified about 4 days later and a
calamity was prevented. The Standby head in the Missile
Compartment was re-instated on return to harbour.
They were the days. Paul Meakin.
Sandy Freeleagus reports
"Was reading through The Chief's
Log and agree, Send Down a Dove is a good read. On
the subject of eyesight - I was laughed out of the
application before it hit some weasel bureaucrat's in
tray. It was explained that to claim I would have to be
standing about three feet from a nuclear explosion and
have a retina detached as well. Funny - I remember being
warned (along with the rest of the crew after being at
sea for the week) not to drive for at least 6 hours as
our depth perception was wonky (as we had 5 days of
focusing in to a maximum of 6-12 feet). When last I was
getting my glasses renewed, the optometrist told me we
suffered from whatever DVA required - but the Squadron
never put anything down on paper - again.
Thanks for the article on the Collins generator job. I
have just had a flashback and am in a fetal position
under the stairs. When I was on Opossum in '69 the
Brits used to sing a song to me. I have never heard it
around our traps and I wonder if anyone else has heard
it.
Face like
a wombat, built like a 'roo
So he joined a British submarine - what else
could he do
So stand by to snort Sport, blow Q Blue
Fair dinkum Cobber - what else could he do.
When an Aussie's poorly he says he's feeling
crook
To find the reason for this read any history
book
So it's stand by to snort Sport, blow Q Blue
Fair dinkum Cobber, what else could he do.
I visited a very
young, attractive female doctor for my annual checkup
and she told me I had to stop masturbating. I asked her
why and she said, "Because I'm trying to examine you."
Mark Pardoe retired from the RAN in
January and has taken up a position in Vanuatu.
I mentioned I went there on HMAS Gascoyne in 1964 as an
Ord on Gascoyne, had a great time and that I have always
said I would like to return to see how they stuffed up
paradise. Mark replied
"I
was posted here for 3 years as the DA’s assistant, fell
in love with the place so paid off in March and have
returned to work in the private sector. I doubt it has
changed much since you were here it’s still like the
wild west, Australia 30 – 40 years ago."
Sid Czabotar attended the dedication of HMAS Orion's fin
and has sent the following report.
Commander Lachlan King represented Captain SM Brett
Sampson who was at sea on one of the boats and CAPT
Richard Fitzgerald unveiled the memorial Plaque. The
Service Master of Ceremonies was Mal Hughes, the
president Rockingham Sub Section of the Naval
Association of Australia. The service was
conducted by the Submarine Squadron Chaplain Rainer
Schack with the Chief of Navy’s address presented by the
Senior Naval Officer present Captain Brett Dowsing/
I congratulate the Rockingham Sub Section of the Naval
Association of Australia and in particular the President
Mal Hughes for firstly arranging the Fin’s installation
at the Rockingham Naval Memorial Park and secondly for
the conduct of the Memorial service held on Thursday 15
April 2010. The service and the memorial is a fitting
gesture to the submariners who served and continue to
serve in the Australian Submarine Service
The service was well attended by Commonwealth, state and
local dignitaries, a large contingent of current serving
Submariners, Naval Associations Members and Submarine
association members. Those of us association members who
attended included our president Fred Lawrence, Mike
Deeks, Steve Thomas, John Rana, Matt Young, Paul Meakin,
Buster John Keating and Peter Ray to name a few.
I was fortunate to be on HMAS Orion on our maiden
journey home in 1978 having joined the boat as the Part
3 WEEO after the ship builder’s trials and Work Up. I
was a bit nostalgic as HMAS Stirling was our first
Australian port of call before the base commissioned. My
memories of the trip have dimmed over time, but a few
things come to mind such as the storm in the Bay of
Biscay where on the worst day Kim Pitt had estimated the
average wave was about 40 ft, Sunset sips in top of the
fin as we passed through the Straits of Gibraltar, 3
days on the Costa Del Sol being berthed at Malaga,
watching the bullfights at Marbella where all the bulls
lost, visiting the flamenco clubs where 1 litre glasses
of Crème De Menthe were easily demolished. Then onto
Greece for an SMP in Piraeus where we stayed in the
Plaka area of Athens, visited many Tavernas and boat
harbour restaurants and drank lots of Retsina and
Domestica wine and of course visited lots of ruins.
Our trip through the Suez Canal was memorable and
included our LRE John Barling chasing the submarine down
the canal on an Egyptian Dow which couldn’t catch us up
and finally hopped into a Taxi which for a carton of
fags allowed to him to meet us just in time as the RE
Speedy Fremantle was being landed with a suspected heart
problem. After we left the Suez area we conducted water
shots and fired the Navigators Cartons of Ouzo in the
sea probably resulting in some pickled fish swimming.
Our arrival in the Seychelles Islands was highlighted by
the first anniversary of the bloodless coup of the Prime
Minister and government the previous year. Then onto
Singapore for another of our many visits for an SMP
before we turned south to arrive on Australian Shores at
HMAS STIRLING in June 1978.
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Victorian Branch President Mike Bennett
said "Why did I think of our Fantastic Branch
Secretary when I read this!!!
A Carlton fan, an Essendon fan and a Collingwood fan are
walking home after watching a game at the pub.
They come across a deceased, naked woman lying on the
pavement, and decide to phone the police. The
Carlton fan, who could not bear to see the undignified
woman lying there in such a manner, took off his Carlton
cap and placed it over the woman's left breast.
Not to be outdone, the Essendon fan removed his cap and
placed it over the woman's right breast.
Similarly, the Collingwood fan felt he could be of
assistance and removed his cap and placed it over her
groin area.
Now, when the police arrived, they watched the officer
inspect the scene of the crime.
The officer picked up the cap from the left breast, had
a peek, put the cap down and then wrote down some notes.
He then picked up the cap from the right breast, had a
peek, put the cap down and wrote down some notes.
Next, of course, was the cap over the groin area. The
officer picked up the cap, put it down and then wrote
some notes. He picked up the cap again, put it down and
wrote some further notes. For the third time, the
officer did the same thing - which infuriated the hell
out of the Collingwood fan to the point where he went up
to the officer.
"What are you ? Some kind of pervert ? Why do you keep
looking there?" asked the obviously-annoyed Collingwood
fan.
The officer replied, "It's just weird...normally, you'd
expect to see a prick under a Collingwood cap !!"
Charlotte Shields is after some help.
"My Dad John Wilson Shields served
upon HMS Trump, and was in Australia from '61. He
passed away several years ago now and I am trying to
gather as much info about his Naval service as I can, I
am not sure if you are able to help but would appreciate
anything.
I have some photos at dry dock and entering the heads
but this is about all." Can any Member of the
Smelly 4th help
Charlotte?
Fifty-one years ago, Herman James, a Queenslander,
joined the Navy.
On his first day in basic training, the Navy issued him
a comb. That afternoon the Navy barber sheared off all
his hair.
On his second day, the Navy issued Herman a toothbrush.
That afternoon the Navy dentist yanked seven of his
teeth.
On the third day, the Navy issued him a jock strap.
The Navy has been looking for Herman for 51 years.
VETERANS
AFFAIRS
Register for Do Not Call Register!!!
Mobile Phone Numbers went public a while back and a Do
Not Call Register was established by the government.
What they didn't tell you was that you have to register
annually or the numbers get released. Follow this
link to where you can enter your phone numbers
online to put an end to telemarketing calls. Don't just
delete those calls otherwise you will find that you have
been signed up for all sorts of extra services that you
didn't wantor know about. Like special chimes, music
etc.. Remember, if you signed up last year it is
time to sign up again.
Sunday, 18th April 2010
I had good news on Friday, the
doctors have identified the cause of my deteriorating
health, kidney problems. This, not the cancer, has
been a major cause of me being crook. They were focused
on other areas and after sending me to another
specialist the problem was identified. I am on new
medication and already feeling a lot better. The
treatment of the cancer on my arm appears to have been a
success, they are working on the spread to the lungs at
the moment.
The surgeon and oncologist are
confident that of a good outcome as they identified it
so early. If I had not had the operation there may have
been a different outcome. I am on a strict diet (again)
on doctor's orders. A lot of visits to the
oncologist in the future to monitor the situation, but I
am confident that I will be around for a few more
SUBCONs. This should help me put the depression
back in its box!
I have had a busy week and have
caught up a little with my paperwork, but I still have
two hundred plus email in my in tray so be patient, I
will get there eventually. But this is your lot
for today.
Last night I went to the local church
with my neighbour and his son, a professor at Brisbane
University was giving a lecture on the supernatural.
Being skeptics we sat at the back.
To get a feel for his audience, the
professor asked, "How many people here believe in ghosts
??" About 50 of the audience raised their hands.
"Well, that's a good start. Out of those who believe, do
any of you think you have seen a ghost ??"
About 40 raised their hands. "That's really good.
I'm really glad you take this seriously.
Has anyone here ever talked to or
touched a ghost ?" About 3 raised their hands.
"That's fantastic. Now let me ask you one question
further....Have any of you ever made love to a ghost ?"
My next door neighbours son Clive raised his hand.
The professor took off his glasses, and says, "Son, in
all the years I've been giving this lecture, no-one has
ever claimed to have made love to a ghost. You've got to
come up here and tell us about your experience."
Clive replied with a nod and a grin, and began to make
his way up to the podium. When he reached the
front of the room, the professor asks, "So Clive, tell
us what it's like to have sex with a ghost !!"
Clive replied, "Ah sorry. From way back there, I thought
you said 'Goats' !!"
ETERNAL
PATROL - Ex WOETCSM Paul
Anthony Green It is with sadness that I report the passing of
Paul. Paul passed away at his home in Thailand from a suspected
heart attack. At this time very little information is available
and I will post more information when available.
Our thoughts go out to Paul's wife and family.
This has come as a great shock to
myself and Robyn. Paul was a great friend to the both of us. I
first meet Paul while on phase 2 and during that time flatted
with him along with 8 others. He was with me when I meet my
Robyn and has remained a great friend. In fact I'm devastated
another great person taken early. As my RE on Orion in 87 - 88
he was as always professional and always happy. God Bless you
Paul
Ray and Robyn Kemp.
It is a sad day. Paul and I were
promoted to PO's on Onslow, on the same day in Hawaii in 83. We
got plastered on Mai Tai's at the Ramada Inn. I will miss him.
Pete Walsh (Magilla)
Thanks you for the very sad news Paul
was a very good friend. 23 years ago today we were in the
middle of a coupe in the Philippines as the yellow shirts (corrazeno
acceno) were attempting to take over the country from the
Marcos. Orion was having a break between missions and it was
good Friday, my elders was
born and I had many gins with Paul,
as you do.
Robert Hendrie
Thanks, Paul was my RE on Onslow when I
was the WEEO and a bloody fine Senior Sailor and submariner at
that.
Ian Hill.
So sad, Paul and I were good mates on Goslow.
Gordon Smith
P.A.G. is/was one of our biggest
friends since we came to Australia in 1978, I first met
Paul on HMAS Otama in 1979 when he became my LRE. I introduced
Paul to Freemasonry and he became my boss for a year, at a later
date, and he beat me to W.O. in the RAN.
Geoff Moss
Sad indeed, a damn nice guy who I have
fond memories of him from our time together on Oxley. He helped
me through some difficult times adjusting to being a POOW....
maybe the heart attack was because the Eagles beat his beloved
Essendon last night? Rest In Peace Paul
Paul 'Blue' Hartridge
ETERNAL
PATROL - The Honourable Phillip
George Evatt DSC, RANVR (Rtd)
It is with much regret that the Evatt
family announces PHIL'S passing on Saturday, March 20, 2010, at
Macquarie Care Centre, Bathurst.
Dearly beloved husband of Nancye (deceased) and loving father of
Anthea, Pippy
(deceased), Philippa & John (deceased).
Phillip Evatt served as an additional Justice of the
Supreme Court of the Northern Territory from 1976 - 1987. He was
a Lieutenant in the Royal Australian Naval Volunteer Reserve
from 1940 - 1946 and was admitted to the New South Wales Bar in
1951.
He was a Justice of the Supreme Court of the Australian Capital
Territory and the Australian Industrial Court from 1974 - 1987.
He was also a Justice of the Federal Court of Australia from
1977 - 1987.
Justice Evatt was a Judge of the Supreme Court of Norfolk Island
from 1981 - 1987 and was Head of the Royal Commission into the
Use of Chemical Agents in Vietnam from 1983 onwards.
Justice Evatt was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross. The
citation reads;
For exceptional skill, audacity and
judgment while serving in HMS Tapir. He trimmed the
submarine during a successful attack on a German U Boat in rough
and difficult weather in which U-486 was destroyed by a salvo of
torpedoes off Fejerson Fjord on the 12th April 1945 and for
efficiency of a very high order in training the crew and for a
generally high standard as an officer during 13 war patrols. (19
June 1945).
02.07.1922 - 20.03.2010
SAA UPDATE
Finally we have had some
volunteers to attend NAA and AVADSC meetings on behalf
of the Association. My thanks to Peter Chegwiggen,
Nigel Irvine and Bob Milne for offering to step in an
fill the gap. It is hard to get anyone interested
in 'serving' their mates by volunteering for Committees
etc, it is always the same old hands at the pumps.
This is the cause of 'burn out' with some committees.
The lack of nominations for our Executive at the coming
AGM is a concern.
It is the same with Meetings,
some Branches have no regular meetings scheduled because
"Noone comes", a
poor excuse I know. How can people attend if there is no
program. Branches that are successful at getting
people to attend meetings and functions because they communicate
with and encourage
their members to attend. With persistence come
success. Without communication comes failure.
Another concern is the number of
Members that have yet to pay their subscriptions for
2010, a lousy $10.
The response to this request has been dismal, why we
bother has got me stuffed! 10% of our Members have yet
to pay. The time spent chasing people up is surprising,
I don't know about our Treasurer, but I have better things to do with my
time.
Time to get off my
high horse, I hope that you all have an enjoyable ANZAC
Day, please try and march with the Association in your
area.
Norm Williams Secretary 0419 863 558
North Queensland
BRANCH NEWS
The North Queensland Branch of the SAA will march this
Anzac Day under the SAA banner in Townsville. Muster
times and location will be advised when confirmed.
There will be a meeting of the branch at 1400 on
Saturday 24th April, prior to Anzac Day. This meeting
will be held in the Legacy Offices, behind the
Townsville RSL at Quinn's Post. Members will retire to
the RSL for socialising and dining afterwards.
The branch said goodbye to Shorty Needham at a moving
ceremony at the Woongarra Crematorium last Friday 26
March. A large crowd attended of approximately 140
people, which filled the chapel, both seated and
standing. The service was conducted by Susan Schmidt, a
Civil Celebrant. Most who attended the service, attended
the wake following, that was held at Shorty's old local,
The Kirwan Tavern.
Garth Schmidt
Secretary, NQSAA.
AROUND THE TRAPS
For a change I'd like to share some good news (this
year) about the Collins Class as Andy Keay reports.
"No doubt most of the members will remember the press
reports early this year regarding a generator failure on
one of the Collins boats, what the press has no interest
in reporting is that in a joint effort between Collins
SPO/ASC and a local WA company - Hoffmans Engineering,
we are well on the way to having both generators
repaired and the submarine once again available for sea
service. It's been a really interesting job especially
the generator cycle around the MGR circus. The ASC
riggers have been top notch blokes getting the port gen
over into the mid gens position while moving mid back
into ports position, something like that joke about the
army moving sandhills around!"
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Andy continued
"This has then been followed by a bunch of Tiffy types
doing a load of careful machining so that we can get the
actual burnt out electrical bits out of he submarine and
off for repair. All being well the return path shouldn't
be too much of a struggle. I'm sure that as a Chief
Stoker you well remember the times the greenies had to
get the armature out of the engine room hatch, no doubt
with the aide of your expert advice and encouragement,
if not actual physical help! Anyway the attached
photos should gladden the hearts of many a Chief SAP and
POLTO and goes to show that not all of us young blokes
have lost the art of generator jobs."
And good luck and a welcome to the real world to WO Len
'Dac Dac' Carr who has paid off after 31yrs service and
congratulations to Mark 'Blu' Layton whoi was promoted
to WO on the 15th March and has taken on Len's role.
POMT(E)SM
Gordon "Kaffa" Anderson can be excused for rambling on
like a TI, he has been back in skimmers for a few year
now. He's email read "Hello my
friendly CPO Stoker and former AMS Beastie, hopefully
life is treating you better now than in the recent past;
I'd heard you haven't been in the best of health so I
pray the treatment etc is getting you back on your toes
and letting you chase the chooks with Boof."
Kaffa continued
"I want to thank you for letting me know about the loss
of Paul Green. He will be remembered fondly as having
once been a DLG myself. Paul always kept the
humour going no matter how down things got. He leaves me
with a lot of good memories, and maybe one day we'll
catch up again. They say you go to Heaven to have a
vacation and you go to Hell to be with your mates; I
know where Paul would want to be. I've also
passed this sad news on to JJ Bonney and Steve Streat
who are also onboard HMAS Anzac with me. JJ is the
Ship's Warrant Officer and Streaty is I/C of ME04; me
I'm I/C of ME03. On a lighter note, Streaty and I are
getting these pukes around to our way of doing things
and we have got the ME Department referring to us as The
Wrecker and The POLTO!" Another
submariner making his mark in the grey funnel line!
Garry
Coombe wrote "Like many
ex-servicemen I
forwarded a letter to my local MP, Steve Irons, with
regard to the inequities in service pensions.
Receiving
no reply I sent him a bit of a rocket, which also went
unanswered. When I saw his picture in the morning
newspaper bleating about some trivial blight on his life
I contacted the newspaper, who in turn contacted Irons."
Garry attached the article from the paper and the
accompanying cartoon.
A Member asked "Do you know of any
members who have had a claim with DVA for degraded
vision due to submarine service from red/ black lighting
and been successful? I have a claim in which in
principle has been supported but not fully approved,
i.e. my case officer needs more supporting information.
I have used the occupational hygiene report and are
trying to get an optometrist or ophthalmologist to
support. Can anyone help, if so
let me know.
Laurie and Tom Johnston will be away
at sea from 3rd April till 6th May, passage routine all
the way. But they will be back for SUBCON. It is
amazing how much sea time some of our retired
submariners get up after paying off, a lot more than
when they were in boats.
Skimmer, Lofty Greig, is organising the Annual ASW
Senior Sailor's Re-union again this year and to ensure
that it will be a success he has invited the submariners
along again. This year's reunion will be held in Ballina
NSW on the weekend of August 6, 7 and 8. Lofty said
"I have had a few submariners
attend over the last 2 years and had no trouble from
them (Mr. Hosie included). My contact details now are
greigbruce@gmail.com
or 02 62885875. Cost for all events is $120.00 for a
couple."
Rod and Pat Peters are doing the
grand parent thing again while the kids go off on
another cruise to the Pacific Islands. Rod said
"We will be away until the 27th of
April then home for a week then a week at Lakes entrance
in Victoria for a week to get over the baby sitting."
They say grandkids keep you young?
Obituary
- The Honourable Phillip George Evatt DSC RANVR (Rtd)
The Honourable Phillip George Evatt DSC RANVR (Rtd)
passed away on Sunday 20 March at the Macquarie Care
Centre, Bathurst, NSW.
Phillip joined the RAN as a 'Hostilities Only' Volunteer
Reserve. He reported to HMAS Cerberus on the Yachtsman's
Scheme on 4 November 1940 as an Ordinary Seaman. On
completion of his initial training he joined HMA
Anti-Submarine School at Rushcutters Bay in NSW to
undertake a sonar training course as a Sub Lieutenant.
On completion of his training, Phillip and his other
class-mates boarded ship and sailed to England to work
with the Royal Navy. While in UK, Phillip volunteered
for Submarines where he undertook training in HMS Forth.
On completion of his initial submarine training, he was
sent to Malta in December 1942 to join spare crew in the
10th Flotilla.
In early January 1943 he joined HMS/m Unbroken under the
command of Lieutenant A.C.G. Mars, the boat left Malta
on the 16th to patrol in the Gulf of Qabes, covering the
retreat of Rommel's forces from Tripoli. Several days
later a ship of 5,000 tons was seen approaching with an
escort of two torpedo boats. Four torpedoes were fired
and one hit the Edda which sank in half an hour. Two
days after the attack, Unbroken was recalled to Malta,
Phillip rejoined spare crew.
In February, Phillip joined HMS/m United under the
command of Lieutenant J.C.Y. Roxburgh. United was one of
four submarines to be involved in operation “Husky” from
26 February to 10 March when she retuned to Malta.
On 23 March United was the first boat from the 10th
Flotilla to operate in the Tyrrhenian Sea under the
command of the 8th Flotilla. Other than encountering a
convoy south west of Marittimo on the 31st she was
forced to go deep by the escorts, this patrol was
unproductive and returned to Malta on 2 April.
On 15 April United returned to sea to patrol off the
coast of Calibri, although the area was thoroughly
combed no targets were sighted and the boat returned to
Malta on 27 April.
The next patrol was from 14 May in an area between Cape
St. Vito and Palermo, Italy, after a fruitless patrol of
missing targets with torpedoes and interception by
E-boat activity, United returned to Malta on 26 May.
United left Malta on 9 June to patrol in an area round
Cape Spartivento. On the 14th a 5,000-ton ship was
sighted with a torpedo boat and aircraft escort. After
gaining a suitable position, four torpedoes were fired,
two hit the German liner Ringulo causing it to break up
and sink, unfortunately an accurate counter-attack
followed, however the boat escaped with 30 lights
broken.
Two days later a German U-boat was sighted on an
opposite course, unfortunately United could not
manoeuvre into a suitable position to fire torpedoes and
the U-boat escaped unharmed. On the 20th the
Italian liner Olbia of 3514-tons was sighted after two
obliging zigs the liner was in a position to have four
torpedoes fired at it, three were seen to hit and the
liner sank within an hour. With no remaining torpedoes
United was ordered back to Malta.
United returned to sea on 15 August to patrol in the
Gulf of Taranto off Point Alice, with the attempt to
intercept the minelaying by Italian cruisers and
destroyers, this was a boring 10 day patrol where no
targets were sighted and the boat returned to Malta,
this was her last patrol before returning to England for
a refit. Phillip left the boat in England in November
1943.
Phillip joined HMS Cyclopes for two months of January
and February 1944 prior to being appointed First
Lieutenant to the training boat HMS/m H32 in March 1944,
his appointment lasted until September when the boat was
decommissioned and sold on 18 October 1944.
In
October 1944, Phillip was appointed the commissioning
First Lieutenant in HMS/m Tapir, under the command of
Lieutenant J.C.Y. Roxburgh, the boat was commissioned 30
December 1944. After work up, Tapir left for its
first war patrol in Home Waters off the west coast of
Norway near Bergen. On 12 April the crew were warned by
sonar the presence of a U-boat, U.486 surfaced some
3,000 yards (2,743.2 metres) away. A quick appreciation
and a salvo of eight torpedoes were ordered (of which
only six were actually fired). At 0753 and at 0755 the
U-boat was hit and sunk with all hands. The German
watchers on Hellisoy witnessed the attack as the three
remaining torpedoes exploded on the rocks some 200 yards
(182.88 metres) from the lighthouse. Tapir left
the patrol on 14 April to return to England, this was
her first and last war patrol.
Phillip was awarded the Distinguish Service Cross, the
London Gazette 19 June 1945 stated the award was for
sinking U.486 off Bergen on 12 April 1945. The Cross was
posted to Phillip.
The citation stated; “For exception skill, audacity and
judgement whist service in HM Submarine Tapir. He
trimmed the submarine during successful attack on a
German U-boat in rough and difficult weather in which
the U-486 was destroyed by a salvo of torpedoes off
Ferjesen Fjord on 12 April 1945, and for efficiency of a
very high order of training the crew and for generally
high standard as an officer during thirteen war patrols.
Phillip left the boat in October 1945, as he was a
Hostilities Only officer, Lieutenant P.G. Evatt DSC
RANVR was demobbed and returned to Australia in May
1946.
Thanks to Peter Smith, SAA
Historian.
Peter Nielsen warns us that Gonorrhea
Lectim is coming back. The Center for Disease
Control has issued a warning about a new virulent
Strain of this old disease. The disease is
pronounced "Gonna re-elect 'im" and is contracted
through danger ous
and high risk behavior involving putting your cranium up
your rectum. Many victims contracted it in 2008
..... But now most people after having been infected for
the past 1-2 years are starting to realize how
destructive this sickness is. It's sad because it is so
easily cured with a new procedure just coming on the
market called Vo-tem-out! You take the first
dose/step in 2010 and the second dosage in 2012 and
simply don't engage in such behavior again, otherwise it
could become permanent and eventually wipe out all life
as we know it. Please pass this important message
on to all those bright folk you really care about.
Les Rawson commented on my complaint
about communications. "I know what
you mean about communications.... I eventually cracked
up and bought a laptop for my Fly In/Fly Out trips and
dutifully bought a Telstra pre-paid modem. I got
everything home and set it all up and rang Mumbai to get
the modem activated......that was Saturday! The
following Friday Telstra activated my service!"
He added "Anyway for readers who
read the poem might like to read a VERY good novel
called 'Send Down a Dove' which quotes the poem.
Although it is a novel, there is a strong school of
thought that that the central character was the author.
The book if made into a film could very well be an
English version of 'Das Boot' and tells a bloody good
submarine story." I agree with Les, a good read.
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John "Bungy" Williams just spent some
time in the Mediterranean including Malta and he also
spent some time in Israel and he sent photos of him at
the Dakar Memorial in Haifa adding "I thought this might
be of interest to any ex Totem submariners."
Special forces in Afghanistan had a
dangerous, shallow river to cross and sent a request to
Defence HQ for three punts and a canoe. Back
came the signal: John Faulkner, Alan Griffin and Peter
Garrett arriving tomorrow. What is a ‘panoe’?
HEALTH AND
WELFARE
The Right
Mix: Your Health & Alcohol
In the lead up to Anzac Day, DVA has launched a health
promotion campaign in selected local newspapers,
encouraging veterans to visit The Right Mix
website to identify and manage their level of
drinking.
Anzac Day is a time when many veterans catch up
with mates, maybe have a drink or two and share their
memories about service. Sometimes those occasions can
lead to having a few more drinks than you mean to. So
keep an eye on yourself, your mates and family members.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can always
call the VVCS - Veterans and Veterans Families
Counselling Service on 1800 011 046. It's free
and confidential.
Coalition will not support
Governance of Australian Government Superannuation
Schemes Bill
The Coalition will not support the passage of the
Governance of Australian Government Superannuation
Schemes Bill 2010 through the House of Representatives
in its current form, as it will disadvantage members of
military superannuation schemes, the Shadow Minister for
Defence Science, Personnel and Assisting Shadow Minister
for Defence, Bob Baldwin, and the Shadow Minister for
Veterans’ Affairs, Louise Markus, have confirmed.
‘We have listened
to current Australian Defence Force members, veterans,
ex-service people and ex-service organisations. After
careful consideration we have concluded that the
amalgamation of all civilian and military Commonwealth
superannuation boards will have a negative effect on the
future administration of military superannuation
schemes,’ Mr Baldwin said.
Military members
and their families are subjected to unique working and
living conditions which often include exposure to
physical danger for the serving member and the constant
burden of relocations for the member’s family,’ Mrs
Markus said.
‘Simply put, this Bill fails to recognise the unique
nature of military service and the proposed Commonwealth
Superannuation Corporation (CSC) will not function in
the best interests of military members.’
Mr Baldwin and Mrs
Markus said the composition of the proposed CSC board
was also of considerable concern. ‘The Coalition
does not support the inclusion of three trade unionists
onto a board managing military superannuation.
Furthermore, it is not appropriate that the Minister for
Finance and Deregulation require approval from the
President of the ACTU to dismiss ACTU appointed
directors for such reasons as misbehaviour, bankruptcy
or insolvency.’
Mr Baldwin said
that he has raised the Coalition’s concerns directly
with the Minister for Finance and Deregulation and
discussed alternatives to the current proposed
legislation including the introduction of separate
civilian and military boards.
‘Such a construct would help ensure that a military
member’s service is duly recognised and their interests
safeguarded while creating the potential for additional
financial gains through the amalgamation of all civilian
and military investment funds.’
An
elderly Coxswain and his wife were watching a Discovery
Channel special about a West African bush tribe whose
men all had penises 24 inches long. When the Black male
reaches a certain age, a string is tied around his penis
and on the other end is a weight. After a while, the
weight stretches the Penis to 24 inches. Later
that evening as the husband was getting out of the
shower, His wife looked at him and said, "How about we
try the African String-and-weight procedure?" The
husband agreed and they tied a string and a weight to
his penis. A few days later, the wife asked the
husband, "How is our little tribal experiment coming
along?" "Well, it looks like we're about half way
there," he replied.
"Wow, you mean it's grown to 12 inches?"
"No, it's turned black."
DEFENCE UPDATE
Restructure
will cost jobs, ASC
A restructure at leading Australian submarine and
shipbuilder ASC will cost jobs, the company says.
Responsible for Collins class submarines and the Hobart
class air warfare destroyer warships, ASC on Saturday
announced a major restructure to bring together its
business divisions. The move is designed to centralise
the corporate functions of the company's submarine and
shipbuilding arms.
ASC chief executive Steve Ludlam said the restructure
would save money and maximise workplace efficiency. "We
need to deliver value for money to our customers and to
the taxpayer, and this restructure is all about ensuring
that happens," he said in a statement.
ASC employs more than 1600 staff in South Australia and
Western Australia, including 280 engineering and
technical specialists. They were told of the plans on
Friday afternoon, with Mr Ludlam admitting some of their
jobs would be affected "where overlap currently exists"
between the submarine and shipbuilding divisions.
Exactly how many jobs will be lost is not yet known.
Mr Ludlam said he decided to restructure the company
after reviewing ASC's business operations earlier this
year. "This is a critical time for ASC with the
shipbuilding division moving into the construction
phase," he said. "The time is right to realise
operational gains from bringing the two divisions
together to ensure ASC is operating at world's best
practice."
Yes to
Women, No to Smoking on Submarines
On February 22, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates
delivered a letter to Congress, notifying it of the
Navy’s desire to permit women to serve aboard its
submarines. The House and Senate had 30 working
days to pass a law barring the move. Congress only has a
“few more days” to reject the changed policy, “otherwise
women will be serving beneath the sea within two years.”
Already in September of last year, top Navy brass,
including Navy Secretary Ray Mabus and Chief of Naval
Operations Adm. Gary Roughead, came out in strong
support for the policy change. At that time, Mabus said,
“I believe women should have every opportunity to serve
at sea, and that includes aboard submarines.” Joint
Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen has also expressed his
support: “One policy I would like to see changed is the
one banning their service aboard submarines.”
And it does look like - barring unforeseen developments
- that Congress will approve the new policy. The
Navy is already studying how it plans to implement the
change. The study will probably be completed later this
month.
However, one change - whether related to women serving
in submarines or not - is already in the works. The Navy
was considering a ban on smoking aboard submarines, in
order to help clear the recycled air for crews who spend
months at a time aboard submerged vessels, that change
is official now.
Last Thursday, the Navy announced that a smoking ban
will go into effect on submarines no later than December
31. Vice Adm. John J. Donnelly, commander of Submarine
Forces in Norfolk, Va., said in a press release that the
decision was reached to protect non-smoking sailors from
secondhand smoke.
A retired admiral and a former undersea medical officer,
Rear Adm. Hugh Scott, is warning Congress about his
“serious concerns about the risk to the safety and
normal development of an embryo-fetus in the submarine
environment…” According to Adm. Scott, a certain
percentage of female sailors embark on deployments
pregnant or become pregnant during the cruise, and
“Unlike surface ships, the sealed environment of the
submarine atmosphere poses an increased risk to the
normal development of a woman’s embryo-fetus.”
Studies, investigations and physical
changes - possibly interior modifications - aboard the
submarines need to be completed fast because the first
female submariners - all of them officers - could be
those women who will be “graduating this spring from the
Naval Academy and college ROTC programs,” after an
additional 18 months of training.
They’d start out on Ohio-class subs…because the boats
wouldn’t need to be modified. There’d be a minimum of
four women per sub. A senior female officer would
probably transfer from the surface nuclear fleet to
mentor the young officers, Mabus said. It’s been 20
years since women began serving on surface ships, and
the experience can be a road map for a smooth
transition.
Women would join smaller attack subs later. Existing
ones would be modified for them, and new ones would be
designed for coed crews.
From Blogs
Even news anchor Steve Inskeep, in reporting the story
on National Public Radio's "Morning Edition," sounded a
bit incredulous. "It's hard to believe it took
until 2010 to figure this out, but the Navy has decided
it's a problem if you smoke on a submarine," Inskeep
began his report, before citing the government's new
studies proving the health risks of second-hand smoke on
subs.
Indeed, people posting to news stories about the smoking
ban that appeared around the world reacted with a
mixture of surprise and humor. Some suggested crew
members could just step outside to light up. Others
worried, now that women will soon be on board, about
sailors missing out on a post-coital smoke.
A few wondered: Will commanders now order more trips to
the surface?
The Navy said it plans to provide programs to help
sailors quit and will lay in a lot of nicotine patches
and gum for future deployments. Still, with official
estimates putting the number of submariners who smoke at
40 percent of the service, you have to wonder how well a
boatload of detoxing sailors are going to get along.
To get a little perspective on what to expect I poked
around in the news archives and found some reporting on
a 1960 experimental smoking ban aboard the submarine
Triton. The Triton left New London in Feb. 16,
1960, on what was supposed to be its shakedown cruise
but which turned out instead to be a surprise and
unprecedented underwater circumnavigation, lasting until
April 25.
The Navy put medical researchers on board to learn a
little more about the physical and psychological effects
of spending such a long time under water in close
quarters. The research included a smoking ban that was
supposed to be 10 days long, but ended after just three,
when the crew started to get a bit more than cranky.
Of course the decision to abort the study early might
have been influenced by the fact that the doctor in
charge was also a smoker. A good account of the smoking
ban experiment comes from the submarine's captain,
Edward L. Beach Jr., who went on to write an
entertaining account of the trip in his 1962 book,
"Around the World Submerged: The Voyage of the Triton."
Beach, who also wrote the classic World War II submarine
novel "Run Silent, Run Deep," exhibits a wry sense of
humor in describing his crew's "sufferings." Beach, too,
was a smoker. "Everyone on board was determined to go
through with the test in good heart and spirit, but as
the dread day for putting out the smoking lamp
approached, various reactions were noticeable among crew
members," Beach wrote. "The nonsmokers were lording it
over the others, and there was an aura of apprehension
among the habitual smokers."
The Triton, he noted, had laid in a good supply of candy
and chewing gum. Not long after the test began, Beach
said, "overt feelings of hostility" began surfacing and
there were also "signs of forced gaiety, with an edge to
it."
On April 18, after only three days of deprivation, Beach
relit the smoking light himself, by strolling the ship
with a lit cigar, blowing smoke into crew members'
faces, and asking, "Don't you wish you could do this?"
"It took some 37 seconds for word to get around," Beach
said, and the Triton was once again a smoking submarine.
The doctor in charge of the 1960 experiment reported
three years later to a convention of the Cigar Institute
of America, according to The New York Times, that the
sailors didn't like having their tobacco taken away.
"When a smoker is forbidden to smoke he just doesn't
like it," the doctor reported. "The smokers in the test
got irritable, ate too much, had trouble sleeping, and
personal relationships began to deteriorate."
Even back then, it seems, the Navy depended on extensive
medical research to uncover the obvious. This is
the opinion of David Collins.
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Sunday, 11th April 2010
Late again, but at least I managed to
get something online, a million email to catch up
with......
Spent more time in Brisbane again this
week, was supposed to be in hospital overnight for
another biopsy but even the best plans can fall apart
and my stay was a little longer. Things are
looking better and I will have the results later this
week.
Communications have been a problem,
had limited access to email in hospital and managed to
answer a few important ones, but just browsed through
the rest. I arrived home on Friday to discover
that Telstra had struck again and the lines were out of
action till Monday so when communications was restored I
was inundated with email. I had not answered the
previous weeks, so a lot to catch up on.
Thanks to all that have written and
rang, I appreciate your concern. However, just
because I miss a Log entry or two is no reason to start
planning my funeral.
Niggs is still growing and nearly
knocked me over when I got home. I was pleased to
see that Lucky (the chook) was still alive although his
tail feathers look pretty ragged where she had been
carried around by the tail. Niggs likes to play.
I have another submariner in the
area, CMDR John "Taff" Davis has been prised from his
desk at the submarine school. He has bought a
property just outside Gympie. He joins Nigel
Dunchue and John Head as "neighbours". I am looking
forward to catching up with Taff and Jan, shown here in
their 'skiing' van. I hope he likes snakes!
Love you all.......
SAA NEWS
I sometimes wonder if it is worth the effort of our
Committees, it is disappointing to receive email such as
this one. "Sorry that I haven't
sent any social activity details to you but the
difficulty here is getting enough people to attend any
functions."
Come on guys, support your Committees and try and attend
at least one meeting or function a year, they are trying
to keep the spirit alive.
VICTORIAN BRANCH
Please note: The Victoria Branch Social Meeting
scheduled for Sunday 18th April has been cancelled due
to the proximity of Anzac Day this year. Our
apologies to any member inconvenienced by this but we
would rather have a good roll-up on Sunday the 25th at
0830 in front of Federation Square on Flinders Street.
Step off will be approx. 0900 and we will meet at the
ESU on completion of the march. Again, apologies
if any member is inconvenienced by this.
Keith J.
Hatfield Secretary
SOUTH AUSTRALIAN
BRANCH
We have been allocated a new start point for the march.
Muster on the East side of Pultney Street, between North
Terrace and Rundle Street. We are still behind the
birdie contingent, we have about 200 yards more to
march.
Ken Grierson
Treasurer
CONGRATULATIONS
- AWARD OF SUBMARINE QUALIFICATION
ABMTSM S. Armtage HMAS Waller
LSCKSM J. Brook HMAS Waller
ABCKSM R. Butterly HMAS Dechaineux
SMNAWASM J. Richardson HMAS Dechaineux
AROUND THE TRAPS
New SAA Member, ex
Korporaal Machinist Johannes Jacobus Van Buuren
from Wynnum in Queensland, on the 100 year anniversary
of Dutch submarines, carried a letter from CAPT Bill
Owen RAN to present to Commanding Officer, Dutch
Submarines. CAPT Bill was Naval Officer Commanding
Queensland Area at the time. John immigrated to
Australia in 1960 and worked with Howard Smith for 23
years where he was known as "Johnny Clogs and "Pumps" to
workmates. While living in Bundaberg John was a
member of the Naval Coastwatching Organisation and an
active member of the Naval Reserve Cadets (LEUT) and TS
Bundaberg.
Bob Emery (for SAOC West) advises that the Submariners
Association of Canada West on-line newsletter "Scuttlebutt"
has been updated and is available for your perusal
...
Anatol Dangel from Lochinvar NSW, in a reflective mood,
wrote "I remember a ditty we used
to have no board HMS Astute when I was doing my part 3
training in the U.K. it went something like this."
Lord up above send down a Dove
With wings as sharp as Razors
To cut the throats of all the blokes
That serve bad beer to sailors
Some people never stop complaining...... In an email I
received from WA Branch VP CPOCISSM Darren Thompson he
said "As you can see no rest for
the wicked, I was awoken at 6am with signal traffic.
Lucky me." Darren, 0600 is NOT early, you should
be up by then!!! However, this reminded me of the nights
when, as Duty Officer, I would get a shake and have some
snotty nosed RO stick a signal in front of me and not
having a clue what it meant, would nod wisely and then
tell him to go away, it could wait till morning.
Lucky WW3 did not break out during my watch!
Darren also noted "We currently
have a CPO RN Submariner (Steve Irvine) over on Long
Look and I have been giving him a rub round on the local
watering holes. Alex Morris has him house sitting over
Easter and there are more offers in the wind so he isn't
being stuck on the Island which is good." Another
excuse for socials............
In an earlier
email
Darren had a request "Following a
request from CMDRE Larry Hickey,
Canada's current
senior submariner, who
is conducting research in advance of a Canadian Military
Historical Conference later this year, could you be so
kind as to place the
following email and picture on the web and ask people if
they have the answers to please contact me with the
info. The first Submariner in the front row of the
picture we know is Tas Kousoukis and we have asked him
for the names of the others." Can you help,
if so contact
Darren? To view photo full size click on it.
On seeing that Geoffrey "Nosmo" King had become a Member
of the SAA he rummaged through his things and sent me
some photos, some of which I publish today, the rest
next week as I am out of time tonight. It includes
some mates that are no longer with us, but shows them as
we remembered them, full of life.
Ex
CPO TASI
Michael Charlton writes "I had
a great time in boats and hope to meet some of the lads
I served with who went to live in Australia."
Michael lives in Spain with his wife Audrey and served
on HMS Thermopylae, HMS Anchorite, HMS Amphion, HMS
Repulse, HMS Renown and HMS Dreadnought. Give him
a thrill and send him an email, it can be in English, I
believe that he can still speak it.
And who said living in the tropics makes you crazy?
Michael Stanly sent the following news item from Cairns.
Cane toads on Cairns restaurant menu
A Cairns restaurant is pleading with the public for cane
toads to help satisfy growing demand for a new menu
item. In a new twist on its traditional European menu,
Le Pranque’s restaurant is hoping to start serving
customers cane toad crepes, complete with a mushroom and
white wine sauce.
Head chef Jack Napier said the taste was "out of this
world". "I’ve been told cane toads have been
hopping around Cairns for at least 50 years," Mr Napier
said. "I can’t believe no one’s ever thought
of combining them in a tasty gourmet dish before."
Nearly 1410 toads were collected across Cairns at the
weekend, including an 18.4cm specimen weighing 525g.
Mr Napier urged anyone with cane toads weighing more
than 500g to bring them to his kitchen to receive a buy
one, get one free coupon to be used at the restaurant
before noon today.
Tony Lee has computer problems and writes
"I can't respond to any emails
today. Something has crashed on my computer……and the
mouse is missing."
Sister Catherine and Sister Helen, are traveling through
Europe in their car. They get to Transylvania and are
stopped at a traffic light. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a
tiny little Dracula jumps onto the hood of the car and
hisses through the windshield.
"Quick, quick!" shouts Sister Catherine. "What shall we
do?"
"Turn the windshield wipers on. That will get rid of the
abomination," says Sister Helen. Sister Catherine
switches them on, knocking Dracula about, but he clings
on and continues hissing at the nuns. "What shall I do
now?" she shouts.
"Switch on the windshield washer. I filled it up with
Holy Water at the Vatican ," says Sister Helen . Sister
Catherine turns on the windshield washer. Dracula
screams as the water burns his skin, but he clings on
and continues hissing at the nuns.
"Now what?" shouts Sister Catherine. "Show him your
cross," says Sister Helen.
"Now you're talking," says Sister Catherine. She
opens the window and shouts, "Get off the f^^#@g
windshield! "


Veterans' Affairs & HEALTH MATTERS
ANZACs and War
Widows offered a free ride with
Greyhound
Greyhound Australia will again
honour the sacrifice of Australia’s war
veterans and war widows by offering them
FREE transport to Anzac celebrations on
April 24, 25 (ANZAC DAY) and 26 across
its entire network. This is the third
year Greyhound Australia has offered the
free service to assist veterans and war
widows to attend Anzac Day commemoration
ceremonies, share memories and catch up
throughout Australia.
Chief Executive Officer Robert Thomas
said Greyhound staff took great pride in showing their
deep respect for the nation’s veterans and the war
widows in this way. “This offer is for all Australian
veterans no matter when they served or whether it was in
Iraq, East Timor, Afghanistan, Korea, Malaya, Japan, the
Pacific Islands, Africa or Europe,” Mr Thomas said.
“Greyhound Australia is 100%
Australian-made and owned and it’s the nation’s oldest
operating bus company. Our history is also tied into the
history of this nation and the company had its own role
during war. We helped transport troops and their
families as they headed off to war. It’s an honour to be
able to offer this free service as a small thank you to
all those who did so much to protect our way of life.”
Mr Thomas said the free rides would
help old diggers and war widows to reconnect for Anzac
Day. “It doesn’t matter where a veteran resides, whether
it’s Ballarat or Sydney. If you want to go to one of the
1100 destinations Greyhound services daily to attend a
specific Anzac parade and meet up with old friends we
will get you there for free,” he said.
Mr Thomas said it was with the
support of the Returned and Services League of Australia
(RSL) that Greyhound was able to undertake the huge
logistical work needed to organise the Anzac Day
special. “In order for veterans and war widows to
receive their complementary travel Greyhound Australia
has had to create a special process,” he said.
“To secure the free travel they must
book via our National Call Centre on “1300 GREYHOUND” or
1300 47 39 46 and introduce themselves as a Veteran or a
Veteran’s widow.”
GREYHOUND
AUSTRALIA PTY LTD
PH: 07 3868 0926 FX: 07 3868 0930
Paddy
and Mick were both laid off, so they went to the
unemployment office. When asked his occupation, Paddy
answered, 'Knicker Stitcher. I sew da elastic onto
ladies' knickers and thongs..'
The clerk looked up Knicker Stitcher on his computer,
and finding it classified as unskilled labour, he gave
him $80 a week unemployment pay.
Mick was next in and when asked his occupation replied,
'Diesel Fitter.' Since a diesel fitter was a
skilled job, the clerk gave Mick $160 a week.
When Paddy found out he was furious and stormed back
into the office to find out why his co-worker was
collecting double his pay. The clerk explained, 'Knicker
Stitchers are unskilled labour and Diesel Fitters are
skilled labour.'
'What skill?' yelled Paddy. 'I sew da elastic on da
knickers and thongs, then Mick puts 'em over his
head and says, 'Yep, diesel fitter.'

DEFENCE NEWS
The US Navy to ban smoking on subs
The top United
States naval officer has vowed to ban people lighting up
in submarines, where the confined atmosphere has serious
passive smoking implications, a report said. "We
are going to stop smoking on submarines," chief of naval
operations Admiral Gary Roughead told a recent meeting
of senior submariners, according to the Navy Times
magazine.
Navy spokesman Lieutenant Commander Mark Jones confirmed
a ban could be in the pipeline, saying: "We are
currently looking at changing the policy but we have not
changed the policy." At present, smoking on US
submarines is up to the commanding officer's discretion
and there are designated areas on many vessels where the
crew are allowed to smoke.
"That atmosphere moves around the submarine. You don't
smell it but the damaging things from the smoke are
still present," Admiral Roughead was quoted as saying.
A Pentagon study last year carried out by the American
Institute of Medicine revealed that soldiers smoke a lot
more on average than civilians and that the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan had seen a spike in smoking. The
last official figures for the US military, in 2005,
showed that 32 per cent of personnel in the armed forces
smoke as opposed to 20 per cent of the American
population as a whole.
Lieutenant Commander Jones said up to 40 per cent of US
submariners smoke, making it all the more important to
look into a ban for the overall health of sailors.
(I bet
Roughead wishes he had changed his name)
Niggs, Let's nap!!!
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